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	Comments on: Straight Generational Dope: Strauss,  Howe, Draper, Pirsig &#038; my Dad	</title>
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		By: Steph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved everything about this. I became a history and English teacher and I always enjoy reading everything you write. Thank you Hal. Cheers and enjoy the rest of your summer! Steph]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved everything about this. I became a history and English teacher and I always enjoy reading everything you write. Thank you Hal. Cheers and enjoy the rest of your summer! Steph</p>
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		By: Lucy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Hal&#039;s mother, I&#039;d like to acknowledge his thoughtful piece on dad and the Silent Generation. He thought of checking it with me before posting, but decided against it--and that&#039;s fine, especially since it all seems good to me! I would only add that his father&#039;s use of pot had more mixed results than Hal describes. Too complicated to explain! But to give one example, nobody we knew indulged and most would have disapproved. Once we were invited to dinner with a couple we&#039;d known since college, and he felt he could smoke with them--but we never heard from them again. I didn&#039;t mind his smoking, up to a point; I tried it myself for awhile. But I enjoyed him more when he wasn&#039;t smoking: he was more interesting and discriminating. We loved traveling, and a bonus for me was that he never brought pot along!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Hal&#8217;s mother, I&#8217;d like to acknowledge his thoughtful piece on dad and the Silent Generation. He thought of checking it with me before posting, but decided against it&#8211;and that&#8217;s fine, especially since it all seems good to me! I would only add that his father&#8217;s use of pot had more mixed results than Hal describes. Too complicated to explain! But to give one example, nobody we knew indulged and most would have disapproved. Once we were invited to dinner with a couple we&#8217;d known since college, and he felt he could smoke with them&#8211;but we never heard from them again. I didn&#8217;t mind his smoking, up to a point; I tried it myself for awhile. But I enjoyed him more when he wasn&#8217;t smoking: he was more interesting and discriminating. We loved traveling, and a bonus for me was that he never brought pot along!</p>
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		By: Hal Phillips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hal Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.halphillips.net/straight-generational-dope-strauss-howe-draper-pirsig-dad#comment-609&quot;&gt;Ron&lt;/a&gt;.

Cheers, Ron. Tough question. Strauss &amp; Howe stress the fact that events oblige people -- big groups of people, the culture -- to act a certain way. WWII was thrust upon the G.I. generation. The experience of fighting the war, at home and abroad, formed the group&#039;s civic minded ethos. Wars are what S&amp;H call &quot;secular crises&quot;. They affect the way people raise their kids (coddling vs. hands-off), invest their money, support or attack government action, etc. Subsequent generations in turn adapt/react to the cultural/generational personalities that came directly before them... But cultures/generations also respond (and subsequent generations adapt.react) to what S&amp;H call &quot;spiritual awakenings&quot; — the 1960s is one example; the Transcendental Period of the 1830s is a more conventionally religious example. No one plans them, they just happen... But what S&amp;H argue very persuasively is that there is a cycle at play here: war, adaptation, awakening, reaction. We can see it clearly when we look at the 20th century, which is still fresh for us: G.I. generation, Silent generation, Boom generation, Thirteenth generation. What&#039;s truly mind-boggling is that this pattern holds all the way back through 400 years of U.S. history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.halphillips.net/straight-generational-dope-strauss-howe-draper-pirsig-dad#comment-609">Ron</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers, Ron. Tough question. Strauss &#038; Howe stress the fact that events oblige people &#8212; big groups of people, the culture &#8212; to act a certain way. WWII was thrust upon the G.I. generation. The experience of fighting the war, at home and abroad, formed the group&#8217;s civic minded ethos. Wars are what S&#038;H call &#8220;secular crises&#8221;. They affect the way people raise their kids (coddling vs. hands-off), invest their money, support or attack government action, etc. Subsequent generations in turn adapt/react to the cultural/generational personalities that came directly before them&#8230; But cultures/generations also respond (and subsequent generations adapt.react) to what S&#038;H call &#8220;spiritual awakenings&#8221; — the 1960s is one example; the Transcendental Period of the 1830s is a more conventionally religious example. No one plans them, they just happen&#8230; But what S&#038;H argue very persuasively is that there is a cycle at play here: war, adaptation, awakening, reaction. We can see it clearly when we look at the 20th century, which is still fresh for us: G.I. generation, Silent generation, Boom generation, Thirteenth generation. What&#8217;s truly mind-boggling is that this pattern holds all the way back through 400 years of U.S. history.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hal, good to read....fascinating synthesis of many things.
You showed the cultural dynamics and that the constellations think differently; and it makes me ask the question, What philosophically made this happen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal, good to read&#8230;.fascinating synthesis of many things.<br />
You showed the cultural dynamics and that the constellations think differently; and it makes me ask the question, What philosophically made this happen?</p>
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